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A Quick Look at the Social CRM Vendor Landscape
Introduction
Social CRM has become part of the mainstream discussion. There is an 800 page book on it (the 4th edition of my book, CRM at the Speed of Light), it has use cases (the Altimeter Group's report, released in March 2010, "The 18 Use Cases of Social CRM"). There was even a Social CRM Magic Quadrant released by Gartner in June 2010, where it was announced that Social CRM was to be a $1 billion segment of the CRM market in 2011 - a tad optimistically I think.
In other words, the discussion on Social CRM is now mainstream - but not for the reasons that you might think.
Whether or not you have a decided opinion on your definition of SCRM or not, the reason that vendors are being forced to respond to upward pressures from the market with what has been called social CRM functionality and features is not because of the companies that want SCRM but because the customers of those potential prospects want to engage more than ever with the companies that they are purchasing from and they are conversing about those companies in the channels that the companies don't control. What companies are looking for then, are:
- How to find out what their customers are saying about their brand - good and bad.
- How to provide customers with inputs to the company so that the customers can either have the opportunity to participate in dialogue with the company, or provide feedback to the company in multiple ways or minimally, have avenues for greater transparency from the company.
- How to provide self-service avenues that are sufficient to allow the singular customer to sculpt his or her own individual experience with the company whether as simple as deciding on the channel that the individual customer wants to use to find out information or as complex as creating and using tools to produce a product that is tailored to the customer's individual desires.
- How to make sure all of the customer's interactions and social data become part of the individual's customer record - adding to the more traditional transaction records and basic field level data (name, address, etc) that already resides there.
- How to use all that to gain insight into the social customer and to figure out the value of that social customer to the company?
There are a significant enough group of other requirements and needs for the new interests that companies have and the new data that they need to create the contemporary customer strategies and programs appropriate to each of them, but this is a good basic start what is important in the new era of the social customer.
What I'm going to do here is look briefly at each of the major vendors as of October 2010 and tell you how they are doing on the SCRM front? This is not to pass judgment on them when it comes to traditional CRM. This is simply where they are in their introduction of social capabilities to their CRM applications. It will be a brief description and and honest one for each vendor. In full disclosure, every vendor mentioned has most likely been a client of mine in some way at some time. Some not. Most yes. However, that has zero effect on my thinking about this. This brief is simply to give you a snapshot of where many of the vendors now are when it comes to the extension of their applications and what you might expect. For deeper analysis, either contact me through here or watch for my year end/into early 2011 blog postings on companies to watch. This is called a brief for a reason.
Analysis
Without further ado:
The Big 4
Oracle - Oracle is perhaps the most interesting of the vendors. Despite their name for their sales applications - Social CRM - they are more focused on enterprise collaboration than SCRM in particular. With the recent exposure of their beautifully organized Fusion apps which include CRM, Human Capital Management, etc., they have increased their emphasis on enterprise collaboration, building features directly into the fabric of the Fusion applications that cross all specific application domains. However, while their enterprise collaboration features ranging from wikis and ranking and rating engines, comment engines and monitoring activity streams are very strong, they remain at this point behind the firewall and are not really designed to engage customers. That said, they have both native social media monitoring features, and their mobile marketing applications are very much geared to B2C customers who can access loyalty features and use points, get peer reviews and participate in discussions all via mobile devices like the iPhone, Blackberry and Android-related devices. So at least here there are some key SCRM like functions.
Salesforce.com - With the recent release of Chatter 2, which adds among other things, much needed deep filtering customization for the activity stream monitoring that Chatter provides and the CRM pedigree of salesforce.com, you would think SCRM is a no-brainer for salesforce.com. For now, that's not the case at all. What salesforce.com has done is through the integration of Ideaforce.com into force.com, provided some SCRM functionality into their native platform, so you can build your own SCRM capability to some degree. But that said, Chatter 2 is NOT at this time focused around SCRM. Marc Benioff sees that they will integrate the external customer inputs and outputs needed for Chatter to bring it to that state in about a year, but for now Chatter is focused on enterprise collaboration - again behind the firewall. One other note: their acquisition of Jigsaw and its data which is based on an customer-collaboration-based open data initiative is something to note here. Whether or not it works in a vendor specific environment remains to be seen.
SAP - They have approached SCRM by component, not holistically. For example, they have done a great job with their Twitter/customer service/sentiment analytics integration, making for one of the best customer service monitoring tools on the market, but they have done little in the way of social sales or community platform integration, for example, Interestingly, their Business All-in-One on premise product is showing some promise integrating social streams into the conduct of the SMB application but it is an on premise product which is not inherently a bad thing, but needs its SaaS or cloud delivery equivalents.
Microsoft - Even with the release of Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011, this is long on traditional CRM and short on social channel integration. Again, this is no reflection on the quality of what they are offering in the traditional CRM marketplace, but is an honest assessment of how suited to SCRM they are.What they do have, unlike any of their competitors despite competitor claims is a great cloud platform, Azure, with all the components that a true cloud provider needs - infrastructure, storage, apps, a platform, services etc. In Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 they have high levels of personalization and contextual behaviors, which are awesome when it comes to customer experience. But that isn't SCRM. But it is good.
Other Vendors To Watch
RightNow - RightNow stepped up their game a bit over a year ago when they acquired HiveLive a social platform. They had been foresighted with their initial integration (which ended with the acquisition of Hive Live) with Lithium who operated both as their internal community provider and their interim community platform. While RightNow focuses on customer experience and insists that they aren't CRM, they are despite the latter blindspot, a premier CRM provider who is incorporating particularly service communities into their customer service applications. They are entirely focused on customer service - not the sales or marketing components of social or even traditional CRM despite their investment interests in Salesnet.
CDC Software/Pivotal - They are perhaps the biggest surprise of 2010. This is a traditional, portal based CRM company that had fallen off the radar screens of everyone for the last 4 to 5 years and somehow, just showed up again with a Social CRM product, that I have to say, integrates social functionality into a traditional CRM system more seamlessly than any other company on this list. So, for example, you can, from inside your CRM system, monitor individual tweets which then are actionable if you choose to make them so. That means you can open a lead or generate a trouble ticket depending on what the tweet drives you to do. If you open a trouble ticket the workflow and business rules behind that trouble ticket send the information to the appropriate party or parties. Its almost seamless. Its biggest problem? Its only on premise which is not a wise thing in the era of the cloud.
Jive - Jive has one of the strongest internal community platforms that exists in the market place and has been named by Gartner Group in June 2010 as one of two leaders in the Social CRM Magic Quadrant. What they have is an enterprise ready community platform that is strongest when it comes to building internal communities - regardless of what delivery model you care to use e.g. on demand, on premise, virtual, etc. What they don't have is traditional CRM sales, marketing or customer service functionality. When it comes to integration they are strongest with SAP. They are the providers for SAP's SDN (3 million members) and BPx (750,000 members) social networks. They are great for product innovation etc. and not as strong for customer service. Rock solid all in all though more "inside out" than "outside in." B2B not B2C as much.
Lithium - Lithium also won a Gartner Magic Quadrant Social CRM leader slot. They are a community platform provider with a markedly different approach than Jive but honestly, have a similar weakness when it comes to SCRM - they have no traditional sales, marketing and customer service functionality - or not much of the latter. They are again a rock solid platform, nonetheless. They are great for customer service not as much product innovation. "Outside in" not "inside out." B2C not as much B2B.
NetSuite - NetSuite has an integration with sales intelligence provider InsideView and with Twitter and from the standpoint of Social CRM, that's about it. What they do is traditional end to end enterprise apps (for upper midmarket) really well, but have not been all that interested when it comes to a social CRM vision - though there are glimmerings on the horizon.
Sage - For a company that's geared to the small and lower end of the midsized marketplace, they've done a surprising amount of integration with social capabilities starting with the availability of external social networks (Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter and some customized) feeds inside of all their customer facing product lines including ACT! 2011 Premium to Saleslogix 2010.
SugarCRM - SugarCRM 6 added the ability to integrate a myriad of custom and well known external socnets and other media directly into the SugarCRM system you've chosen for your company - should you have done that. They have a partnership with InsideView and other social providers of varying kinds to make that integration comprehensive if not seamless. They don't have the ability to develop communities in particular though and of course carry the traditional CRM functionality they always have. A very good effort when it comes to social media monitoring though making the data actionable is not an out of the box thing.
Infor - Infor swallowed up SSA Global which swallowed up Epiphany (formerly known as, I kid you not, E.piphany) and that is where they get their CRM chops though, they like others such as the newly minted Moxie (nee nGenera) prefer to call it customer interaction management CIM). Whatever. Consequently, its hard to type them into the SCRM or not space but they have an email marketing program call Email Advisor, which while not strictly social CRM per se falls into the "sculpting the right experience" part of the SCRM definition. The program can dynamically alter the email message based on the real time activity (or inactivity) of the customer whose inbox has the email that holds the offer. So, if you're out of town 10 days and an email offering you a discount good for a week is in the box, by the time you get back, the expired offer is no longer part of the email and a new timely offer takes its place. Amazing stuff and while not TECHNICALLY SCRM it does satisfy what the social customer is looking for so who cares what its called?
INgage Networks - They are a true social networking platform and not a community building platform. They integrate very well into the public sector and the entertainment and media space providing video conversation engines, ranking, ratings and commenting, workflow and business rules engines - a truly enterprise worthy social networking platform. That said, they, like the others that grew up social, don't have the traditional CRM functionality necessary to be truly an SCRM provider, but they have a strong public sector focused integration with Microsoft Dynamics CRM and are built to handle these integrations. Next step? Doing the integrations.
Get Satisfaction - This offering started out as customer service social site where you could not just register your complaint about a customer, but companies could run their customer service community from the site. Well, they've begun a dramatic morphing into a platform for building service communities that will compete with the likes of RightNow, Lithium et. al and they have started by integrating that platform with salesforce.com and other CRM vendors are in the game plan. This is one to watch for at least the customer service component of SCRM.
Sword-Ciboodle - Sword-Ciboodle came from the world of what Forrester called "process based CRM" (whatever that may be) and has excelled in keeping making sure that the 90% of the queries that aren't complaints that come in, stay not complaints. But with the recent release of Ciboodle Crowd module, they place themselves squarely in the customer service part of the SCRM universe. One advantage is that they DO have the traditional customer service capabilities that are needed as part of the SCRM platform.
Others to pay attention to - WeCanDo.Biz, Moxie, Zoho, Radian6, Attensity, ExactTarget, SAS, and Pegasystems. Each of these is worthy for one reason or another when it comes to SCRM. More details on these others some other time. For now, make sure you click on the links because they take you where you need to go for SCRM, not just to the general site
Conclusion
You noticed that there are few (read: none) applications that approach a genuine holistic SCRM suite that includes all the customer facing departmental functionality and the social components and extensions necessary to define this full suite. But there are components of that in all of the ones that I mentioned in detail and in the ones that I said to pay attention to. There are several that I either am not mentioning because of considerations that make me want to watch and wait, or that I forgot, or because I really want to have a life and this is a growing and big market. For other resources, check out Jeremiah Owyang's Altimeter Group list which could use an updating (2009 list), but is still highly germane, and the Gartner SCRM Magic Quadrant mentioned above.
But keep one thing in mind. This is a nascent market that rests inside a mature market. There are forces converging right now - the community platforms, the social media monitoring tools and traditional CRM vendors to enrich and grow that market. This can get confusing. Hopefully this is a good starting point - a guidepost - for you to realize that this is something that you want to get into. For sure.
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10 Comments
Hey Paul,
Nice job updating the #sCRM SocialCRM Landscape. It is certainly a confusing time out there for the customer when 'Everyone' is using the term Social & CRM. Simply put I think #sCRM includes three major pieces, CRM (The heart of which includes the three C's - Contacts, Calendar and Communications), Listening & Collaboration. If you don't do all three you're not SocialCRM.
I look forward to the day when we can earn our way into your list. Until then we'll keep plugging away. Thanks for keeping us all on path and honest.
Your admirer and friend,
Jon
Tim, they have what they have. Even though you're taking the statement to an extreme, the reality is that the CRM vendors have some social capabilities which is more than they had 3 years ago. The social vendors don't have traditional CRM operational capabilities nor will they probably ever do that. So why does that draw your contempt? The social vendors aren't claiming that they have traditional CRM capabilities? The CRM vendors (with a very few exceptions) aren't claiming to be SCRM - and the one or two that are have quite a bit of social inputs and outputs built into their technology. What do you think should be done? If you have a good reason to be contemptuous, tell us what it is.
Paul, you have outdone yourself here. Great piece of analysis!
Thanks Paul An excellent analysis piece and very useful. Still some significant language issues around the various terminologies that will undoubtably confuse the market, but heh let's ride the wave.
Thanks for this. Very balanced overview of the capabilities of SCRM and Vendors. The latter, I dare say, more insightful and directive than the Magic Quadrant for SCRM.
I agree with Doris. As with all your analyses, there's depth and thoughtfulness - you're not just marking off a checklist of features and functionality, you highlight the inner workings of the vendor. Thank you for including INgage Networks - the next step is more robust integration for sure. Cheers Paul!
Paul, as ever thanks for the shout.
In response to Tim D'souza - I think you will find that we, for example are neither a pure CRM vendor nor a 'social' provider. We are a native Social CRM organisation who were founded and have grown as such. Social CRM drove us to 'be' so I challenge your statement fundamentally
Paul,
Very informative and perspective building piece here. And I am curious how you would fit the Marketing Automation players into this space...or how they might change how Social CRM is being defined. Tools like Pardot, LoopFuse, SilverPop all integrate with CRM's and also have as a big part of their platforms Social Media monitoring & engagement aspects.
So think this is a great piece and a step in right direction for creating some Rhyme and reason in this space.
Paul -
Very interesting and thorough exposition of the changing landscape of CRM. How do you respond to the thesis that SocialCRM is merely a transitional nomenclature, and that ultimately all CRM (and, indeed, all business applications) will de facto be social. Looking to the future, it's hard to conceive of customers assessing the relative merits of social versus non-social CRM, and opting for the later.
What a load of crap. The "big 4" as you described have nothing social about their crm beyond a thin veneer of capability. The problem here is that the crm vendors don't have social and the social vendors don't have crm.
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