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Big internet websites going dark to protest SOPA. Thoughts?

Some big names on the Internet are going dark: Wikipedia, Reddit, Mozilla, WordPress.org, icanhazCheezburger Network, Imgur, MoveOn.org, TwitPic.

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Ian Kennedy
Product Guy, GigaOM
Posted on Jan. 18, 2012

As Cory Doctrow has written, blaming the Internet and using DNS modification to punish suspected violators and accomplices of copyright law is like "blaming automobile makers for bank robberies because many bank robbers use cars as their getaway vehicle."

http://everwas.com/2012/01/sopa-in-plain-english.html

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Alan Dash
Technology Designer/Consultant , Syska Hennessy Group
Posted on Jan. 18, 2012

I think that if we are going to have a free market, it should be a free market on both sides and all the time; not just free on the corporate side when it's their desire to be free from control, yet regulated when they want that regulation on the people.

In a true free market, industries would create means and methods of protecting their IP and the burden would not be on the people - that would be considered the cost of doing business. Instead these industrial complexes pay ridiculous fees to entertainers and then poor-mouth the government. They should put some of that money into technology to protect their IP - these mega stars could still feed their kids.

In a non-free market we'd establish government controls and watch over the proletariat to make sure the masses are not hurting the conglomerations who either can't figure out how to stop a 10 year old from hacking a CD and putting it on the net or don't want to invest in trying.......

If you have time, go to Wikki - they have direct links to your reps.

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John Whitaker
IT/IS Manager, LANCO Corporation
Posted on Jan. 18, 2012

SOPA is another example of good intentions that will lead to bad results. That's typical operations of politicians and government. Meanwhile, private companies are already handling this (opendns, etc) Why does the "state" have to involve themselves with everything?
Mainstream media does not report on any of the far reaching effects this will have so I think it's good that google, craigslist, etc are getting the word out there.

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Steve Newman
Client Solutions Executive, Insight
Posted on Jan. 18, 2012

I can see why the MPAA and RIAA are supporting this.I can also see how the goverment can abuse thier power under this guise of this act and shut down sites that disagree with them.

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Julie Raptis
Programmer/Developer, BCBSM
Posted on Jan. 18, 2012
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That's one way to make a point!

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Well done to Wikipedia (the only website I'm aware of) for highlighting this critical situation. Freedom of speech and information underpins all true democracies . . . without it, we allow the propaganda machine to take full control. The Internet is one of the last vestiges of freedom of speech, unbiased news, information and ideas in this increasingly corporate controlled world. Please help to defend democracy by showing your support for Wikipedia, and any other participating websites, to maintain an Internet that is 100% free from control.

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Julie Raptis
Julie Raptis Replied on Jan. 18, 2012

Agreed, except the part about unbiased news. No news is unbiased.

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Trent Milliron
CEO,CFO,VP,Director, Kloud9
Posted on Jan. 18, 2012
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This law probably doesn't have it exactly right, but let’s be honest here, stealing is stealing. Everyone who downloads copyrighted material is stealing plain and simple. This is not a first amendment right, and protecting intellectual property is one of the great things America provides to original thought creators.

Come on we ALL know this is the right thing to do. Finally someone is shutting this crap down. You can say the law is flawed I'm ok with that, but you can't say the idea is flawed.

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Julie Raptis
Julie Raptis Replied on Jan. 18, 2012

The method is flawed and provides far too much power to people/agencies known for abusing power.

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Alan Dash
Alan Dash Replied on Jan. 18, 2012

Trent, I respect your opinion. The way I look at it is if they can pay a 'star' several million to make a movie, sing a song, or punch another guy out, why can they invest in their IP protection? Why involve Uncle Sam in what is a free market element; the providing of goods and services?
Instead of trapping a kid for theft of unprotected data, build a better trap - invest in your data like you invest in your stars.
But no - we'll lock folks up for taking unprotected date - data that's already Federally protected mind you.
Meanwhile, while we clamp down on our own citizens, we'll continue to provide most favored trade status to nations rife with pirates hacking the heck out of this information.

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Trent Milliron
Trent Milliron Replied on Jan. 18, 2012

I don't care if a company makes millions, billions, or trillions, there is no excuse for people stealing from them, and it is not their job to police morality, stealing on a broad scale is the governments business. If I leave my wallet out unprotected it may be stupid of me, but there are still laws and enforcement of those laws that provides punishment to the person stealing it. Not to mention it is morally wrong to steal, every bit of our DNA says so.
What this law is really proposing is no different than if a trucking company was smuggling stolen goods, and the gov shutting down the trucking company to prevent the stolen goods from being sold. I doubt you would argue that is the wrong thing to do, given the trucking company knows what it’s hauling. Peddling stolen goods is wrong and bad for business in general. Even if this imaginary trucking company was just hauling fake Chinese Guess purses, you would agree stealing Guess’s IP is wrong, and the trucking company knowingly pedaling such stuff should be shut down to prevent the sale correct?
Sure Guess should (and I’m sure does) try to prevent this stuff, but it happens, and when it does it’s bad for everyone, not just Guess, this is why it’s the governments job to get involved and defend business IP.
I have spent great time working with people in other countries without good IP laws, and nothing will kill the spirit of business like having your ideas or material stolen. Again real protection of IP is what makes America great.

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Alan Dash
Alan Dash Replied on Jan. 18, 2012

Trent, again I respect your opinion. Yes, if you leave your wallet out unprotected and it get's taken, we agree.....'oh well'. Same for companies that place media on the net without protection - 'oh well'. If I went into a recording studio and stole their goods, bypassing their lock, I'd be in trouble. If that same studio tossed their songs out the window to the street without protection and then stood there with the government behind them and said 'none shall pass', that's just crazy. If you put stuff out on the street, it's goint to get taken, so protect it if you don't want it taken or don't put it out on the street - build a better lock - innovation is a two way street. Don't ask the tax payers to protect it and don't reward other countries with trade status that break these locks.

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Claire-Focus Focus
Claire-Focus Focus Replied on Jan. 18, 2012

If governments want to crack down on theft, shouldn't they start with the bankers? Or is that not what this is really about?

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Julie Raptis
Julie Raptis Replied on Jan. 18, 2012

Trent, while I admire your passion, part of the problem is that the Internet is NOT a truck full of product. You're comparing a house to the entire globe. I know what goes on in my house, but can't possibly know everything going on in the world around me, nor would I want to be arrested for being expected to. And I admire your thoughts about morality, but don't actually believe it is in the DNA of many people in today's society. Here's the thing, though. If there is the slightest chance that this can lead to censorship, someone will find a way to do it. If the law is flawed, and we know it, then fix it before we start talking about passing it. Laws are not something that should be created in iterations.

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