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Is economic/political uncertainty the main reason as to why the private sector is not investing?

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Scott Albro
Founder, CEO, Focus
Posted on Aug. 29, 2011

Economic uncertainty has been the number one concern of businesses for the last 18 months, at least among Focus members. Weak demand is usually the top concern during most garden variety recessions, but the demand concern largely went away during Q4 of 2010. Of course, since then economic uncertainty has only increased because of the following events:

1. The Fukushima nuclear crisis in Japan
2. Unrest in the Middle East
3. Higher gas prices as a result of the Arab Spring
4. Bad consumer data in June around things like home sales
5. A lot of bad news out of the Eurozone and Greece in particular
6. The debt ceiling debacle

That is a tremendous amount of macro uncertainty. But the worst news we've received all year is the failure of job creation to pick up. In fact economic uncertainty will remain the number one of concern of businesses until the official unemployment drops below 9%.

And that is the definition of an economic chicken and egg problem.

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John Staple
Director of Marketing, CareersUSA
Posted on Aug. 24, 2011

This is a paradoxical question, similar to the old "Which came first: The chicken or the egg?"

One of the main reasons we have economic uncertainty is because the private sector isn't investing. But one of the main reasons why the private sector isn't investing is because of the economic uncertainty. So it's a vicious cycle that resembles an ouroboros (a snake eating its own tail).

But I'm not really sure there is a whole lot of political uncertainty. I think we can be certain that there will be no effort to improve the economy by Congress between now and 2012. There will be no additional stimulus, there will be no increase in infrastructure spending, there will be no jobs programs put forth and there will be no attempt to generate the sort of demand required to spark economic growth.

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Nathan Och
Nathan Och Replied on Aug. 24, 2011

So, it sounds like you believe there are two types of uncertainty; consumer uncertainty and investor uncertainty, both of which are feeding off of the other.

I will pose another question pertaining to your second paragraph. Doesn't the fact that knowing none of those things will come about in the political realm create a level of uncertainty in itself?

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John Staple
John Staple Replied on Aug. 24, 2011

Well, consumer confidence is an important and measurable index, so that definitely drives uncertainty. And the investor class - which as of late has been decidedly schizophrenic - has an entirely different set of expectations which drive uncertainty. So, I agree with your framing that both groups are looking at each other, waiting for the other to make the first move.

As to your question, I think being certain that improvement will not come from the government until the 2012 elections certainly does create another level of uncertainty. People don't know what the effects of inaction will be in the short term, and they don't know what will happen beyond 2012 when the government will change.

I don't think anyone can take comfort in the fact that they know Congress is staring at the worst recession since the Great Depression, and has decided to embrace the policies of austerity. It's certainly bringing little comfort to European investors who are watching the GDP of countries who have embraced austerity grind to a halt.

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Aaron Lintz
Business Development, Pinkerton Consulting and Investigations
Posted on Aug. 25, 2011

Great conversation here about the role that government has or should have to encourage businesses to expand. Many U.S. business are expanding, unfortunately they are expanding overseas. Quantitative Easing discourages businesses from saving (lower yield) so many have built new facilities outside of the U.S. where growth is predicted to be greater.

So what can be done:

1. The Federal Government should consider laws that would encourage the creation of new jobs (not just moving them from one state to another).

2. Consider limited tariffs on goods / services that can be or are already being produced in the U.S. (This used to be called Protectionism)

3. Increase the level of budgetary oversight for government spending.

4. Get rid of the (hard) debt ceiling as a rule, and consider it as a percentage of GDP instead.

5. Foster innovation with grants for science and technology via competitions (X-prize meets American Idol).

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Nathan Och
Nathan Och Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

Aaron, I like your suggestions...except #2. Protectionism, in my opinion, is a knee-jerk reaction to watching jobs go overseas. They will still go oversees, but US consumers will simply have to pay higher prices for goods with tariffs in place. If the US government practices 1,3,4, and 5, then #2 shouldn't even be needed, especially with the proper education of US citizens in careers of tomorrow, not yesterday.

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Aaron Lintz
Aaron Lintz Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

I knew #2 would get a rise. It would be bad over the long-run and likely create trade wars between nations.

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Nathan Och
Nathan Och Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

Haha, well, it gets people thinking. Nothing wrong with debating all sides and viewpoints.

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E. James (Jim) Brennan
Senior Associate, ERI Economic Research Institute
Posted on Aug. 24, 2011
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Investment implies uncertainty, because "sure things" with no risk carry small return rates. So political currents (which are inherently unstable) don't really change anything. I think the refusal of the private sector to invest stems from the balance of consequences: lack of incentives and surplus of deterrents. There is no strong reason to invest and lots of good reasons to sit on your cash. Just a personal opinion, of course.

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Rose Stabler
Managing Partner, Certified Business Brokers
Posted on Aug. 25, 2011
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Another tier of investor is the Small Business Owner. Small business is the generator of most new jobs, historically. They don't have large coffers full of treasure to sit on. They make their living from the cash flow generated from the business. The investments they make when they do have a surplus of cash is in their own business, whether it be expansion or technology, it usually means additional employees. But, with the uncertainty of government regulation and additional costs of doing business as a result, their is no small business expansion or hiring. If people don't have jobs, consumer spending goes down. In my opinion, it is not the chicken or the egg conundrum, it is political uncertainty and government intervention that causes lack of investment in the private sector.

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John Staple
John Staple Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

You are 100% correct that SMB are the driving factor in employment, and that they are not sitting on piles of cash. In fact, only 2% of small business owners currently make over $250,000 a year, while 14% of them claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, which is only available to low income earners.

I'm not sure which regulatory uncertainties or government intervention you feel are stifling SMB growth. Perhaps you could offer some specifics? I agree that people without jobs means less consumer spending. Less consumer spending means less business growth, which means less jobs. Less jobs means.means less consumer spending, and so on. That sounds to me like a conundrum. So where does the cycle get broken?

If anything, I would argue that LACK of (appropriate) government intervention is at the heart of the problem. Since businesses cannot or will not take the necessary steps to improve demand and create jobs, which in turn fuels consumer spending and economic growth, who is left to intervene?

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Nathan Och
Nathan Och Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

Many would believe that what John is saying about how the government is failing to do their party is correct. In my opinion, I feel this is at the heart of the issue. Government touts their position with the stimulus, and how it "saved" us from the brink, but that is another topic. However, it seems they are not doing enough, currently, to help stimulate the private sector. It isn't about government creating jobs, it is about government creating an atmosphere to which job growth can be bolstered. I feel many professionals are still on different pages about what that atmosphere should entail. Overall, I feel one thing is certain, in an advanced economy like the US, government MUST play a role in economic activities and to do act as a catalyst to lift the private sector in recessionary times.

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John Staple
John Staple Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

Well said, Nathan! I really couldn't agree with you more.

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Rose Stabler
Rose Stabler Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

It depends on what government thinks is "lifting" or "stimulating." Since government uses our money, it usually just takes from one place and gives it to another. No matter which place is getting and which isn't, it's just mashing the potatoes and not growing addition potatoes. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the statements here, but government doesn't create jobs, it needs to let capitalism happen, which only happens when government is not micromanaging and trying to run things, like it has with GM, Amtrack, etc. Small Business Owners don't want money from the government. They just want to be free to run their business and grow it.

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John Staple
John Staple Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

If the government doesn't create jobs, then where do teachers, police officers, firefighters, and nearly every other member of the public sector find gainful employment? The private sector is going to take over their functions? I really don't think so. Ironically, the unemployment numbers would look MUCH better if the public sector wasn't shedding jobs the way it has been the last 2 years, and those numbers are not being offset by private sector growth.

The invisible hand of the free market doesn't create jobs, either. It doesn't care about jobs - it only cares about profits. It just happens top be a fringe benefit that in its zeal to reap profits that jobs are created. At least that's how it used to work. But that system is broken, which is kind of the thrust of this topic. Corporations ARE sitting on trillions of dollars in cash after seeing massive gains in profits the past few years, but that growth isn't translating into jobs.

SMB owners ARE free to run their businesses right now (I still haven't seen a mention of a specific regulatory hurdle which is holding businesses back). Taxes are at 50-year lows, so that cannot be holding them back. So I still think the problem is that there isn't enough demand for what businesses are selling, and the private sector doesn't seem to be doing anything about remedying that.

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Rose Stabler
Rose Stabler Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

John, government jobs have increased tremendously the last 2.5 years. Those government jobs are ceated with our money through taxes. Who do you think is paying for all those new government jobs? We have a fundamental difference in what real growth is that will not be solved here. But, just to throw in the biggest small business hurdle is Obamacare. The bigger the public sector grows, the small the private sector will grow.

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Nathan Och
Nathan Och Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

Rose, I feel the argument isn't whether the government should or shouldn't get involved in bostering an atmosphere for job creation, but rather to what extent. This is where the main argument lies among economists, today. Some believe another stimulus (larger than the prior one) is the answer, while others believe minor involvement is key. Either way, the consensus is clear, government must intervene.

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John Staple
Director of Marketing, CareersUSA
Posted on Aug. 25, 2011

I'm sorry Rose, but where do you get your data from? I work for a staffing company, so I am pretty devoted to tracking labor trends and your claim that "government jobs have increased tremendously the last 2.5 years" is simply not valid.

Local governments are cutting jobs at the fastest rate in almost 30 years. Here are some numbers from a recent US News article:

- Since 2008, local governments have shed a total of 464,000 jobs.
- Nearly 100,000 local government employees have lost their jobs so far THIS year.
- 60 of the largest 100 metropolitan areas have lost government jobs since the recession began in 2007.

http://money.usnews.com/money/careers/articles/2011/07/08/public-sector-job-c...

And here are some figures from a recent Bloomberg article on the topic that show the government as a whole (federal and local) isn't faring much better:

- In July, 37,000 government jobs were eliminated, marking the ninth straight month of reduction.
- A total of 218,000 government jobs were lost in the first seven months 2011.
- Wells Fargo predicts 20,000 to 30,000 additional government job losses a month through the middle of 2012.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-05/austerity-calls-collide-with-u-s-vot...

The final toll on the public sector throughout the current recession is estimated to approach a loss of 1 million jobs. I don't know how you can square that with the claim that there has been a tremendous increase over the same period of time, especially when nearly half a million jobs have already been lost and that downward trend is expected to INCREASE in the near future.

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Rose Stabler
Rose Stabler Replied on Aug. 25, 2011

John, don't be sorry, it's better to just be right. Read this and learn. Analysis published today: 'Simple Math confirms unemployment won't be solved by government hiring.' The analysis was done using U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Obama has U.S. economy in 'death spiral' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=173169

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John Staple
John Staple Replied on Aug. 26, 2011

You're kidding, right? World Net Daily is a more trusted source of information than US News & World Report or Bloomberg?

Did you happen to notice that the article is based on a study by "The Free Enterprise Nation"? Did you notice that you can't even READ their study (it's a broken link in the article) because the "Free Enterprise Nation" ceased operations on July 15 (we can only guess why)?

If you're going to offer contrary "evidence", at least have the courtesy not to waste anyone's time with nonsense.

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Rose Stabler
Rose Stabler Replied on Aug. 26, 2011

It is contrary to your beliefs, so I understand your trying to naysay it. It is based on US Bureau of Labor Statistics, which just so happens to still be in existence. You can ignore it if you wish, it doesn't change the facts. I'm going back to working in my world of small business while John goes back to his staffing job where no phones are ringing. So I'm sure he'll have plenty of time to continue with his musings here.

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John Staple
John Staple Replied on Aug. 26, 2011

It isn't contrary to my beliefs, it is contrary to the FACTS. That is a significant distinction with a major difference. If several major publications are publishing numbers by the BLS, and WND is publishing alternate numbers by the BLS from some fly-by-night outfit, only one set of figures can be TRUE (hint, it isn't WND). It isn't a matter of opinion.

And the fact of the matter is that our business is up significantly because employers are turning increasingly towards contingency staffing in these uncertain times. We have so many orders to fill that we have had a major increase in internal hiring. Very few of those jobs, though, are in the public sector.

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Jeff Moskovitz
Outsourced CFO/Advisor/Coach, JMM Advisors
Posted on Aug. 30, 2011
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Scott, I do believe your last two paragraphs nailed it, and your list of uncertainties isn't even all-inclusive, nor does it have to be.

There are so many government interventions and regulations out there, the consequences of which few people, including some of those who championed them, fully comprehend. Need I remind anyone of one of the most brilliant statements of our time? Paraphrasing: "We have to first pass the law so that we can find out what's in it." On top of that, many of the provisions contained in these recently-implemented laws and regulations won't be effective for years. Can anyone possibly expect anything but uncertainty?

To suggest that there is currently no political uncertainty is like the airline pilot who announces to a plane full of passengers that, although the airplane is spiraling downward toward swift annihilation, there is nothing to worry about because death and destruction is a certainty. "In fact, until we crash and explode into a million pieces, you are free to move about the cabin."

In reality, there has never been more uncertainty at once, at least during my lifetime. Uncertainly is risk, and risk impedes investment, including hiring.

Until hiring picks up in a meaningful way, there will be no recovery. One thing is for sure - very few people are going to rise up suddenly for no apparent reason, to go out and buy new cars and 64-inch plasma television sets. So, in many respects, this renders the "chicken and egg" argument moot. The consumer will not make the first move.

There are ways to mitigate some of the risk and uncertainty businesses are facing, and put people back to work, but I'm afraid the only way to do that is through the political process, which, at least thus far, has (to put it tactfully) not been terribly effective in this area.

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John Staple
John Staple Replied on Aug. 30, 2011

And yet despite all the uncertainty, the one thing we all seem to be pretty certain of is that Congress will not (or cannot) act to help resolve the problem. Not that anyone can take much comfort in THAT.

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Steve Smith
Founder, GrowthSource Coaching
Posted on Aug. 31, 2011
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Nathan, I'd like to think that everyone watches the temperature of our political system and the economy but I simply have no solid data to back it up. Anecdotally, I think some businesses are staying put because they don't know what they can count on. However, many others are seeing increases and need to hire. My son is in the staffing business and he is placing engineers left and right. With overall productivity levels having shot up in the last 10-15 years, many businesses that have upgraded their technology simply don't need as many employees as they use to. Others have outsourced and the labor rates are simply too low to think about hiring domestically.

If there's any lack of decision making due to uncertainty, I think it's more in the area of expansion and or acquisition that ultimately spurs new hiring. You could also make a great argument for this level of decision making and the amount of news you follow. Sometimes, the news doesn't reflect reality.

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Jason Holden
Director, Holden Associates - Qualified Accountants, Business & Tax Advisers
Posted on Sept. 1, 2011
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IMO the reasons for lack of investment centre around the banks, it is simply a case that here in the UK they are VERY reluctant to lend, this has created a lack of 'cashflow' within the economy which in turn has resulted in a 'bunker' mentality amongst consumers and businesses alike, couple that with journalists taking great pleasure in presenting doom and gloom to everyone and bingo you have the situation we all find ourselves in today.

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Leanne Hoagland-Smith
Chief Results Officer, ADVANCED SYSTEMS
Posted on Sept. 1, 2011
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Human beings are by nature gamblers who like to hedge their bets. Entrepreneurs take this behavior to the next level. Economic uncertainty and its cascade affect on the entire economy in both public and private sectors is the number one obstacle facing businesses today. The total economic impact of Obama care has still not been felt and from all reports, many businesses are shedding their health care in various degrees because of this uncertainty. On the flip side, from what I have read, consumer debt is decreasing not sure if savings are increasing.

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