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Has the US labor force been too sedentary in their quest for updating/learning new skills?

To elaborate, are current workers and future workers too complacent in learning the status quo skills rather than getting educated in fields of tomorrow?

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Paula Ashley
Sales/Marketing, Next Year's News
Posted on Sept. 7, 2011

The word "sedentary" in this query caught my eye. Just this morning, my partner and I were discussing how some people are kinetic by nature and just not cut out for the sedentary life of a desk job. When I think of "the fields of tomorrow," I DON'T think of jobs like fishing, farming, construction, and the like in which the kinetic personality is naturally successful. Is retraining really the answer for someone who finds desk work at odds with their basic nature?

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Teresa Dentino
CEO and Founder, The Financial 411
Posted on Aug. 29, 2011

If we consider the unemployment figures and that the rate is considerably higher (approx 15% last I read) for those with no education beyond high school, it would stand to reason. As new businesses develop as a result of technology and innovation, new skills need to be developed to keep pace.

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Nathan Och
Nathan Och Replied on Aug. 29, 2011

So, do you believe that Americans have been spoiled, in a way, the last 20 years or so before the Great Recession? It seems many are expecting the same type of jobs to come back when recovery comes, but I feel many people will be very disappointed.

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Teresa Dentino
Teresa Dentino Replied on Aug. 29, 2011

I don't know if "spoiled" is the correct descriptor. And it's not the first time in history we've had "job displacement" as a result of innovation. Think about when the steam engine was invented ... and the combustible engine. As one example, people whose jobs were related to horse and buggies were 'phased out' due to the new 'technology'. They would have had to then adapt to changing times - updating skills/getting training - in order to become employable. There will always be innovation in the U.S. so we also need to have vision about what's ahead.

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Martin Krohne
Martin Krohne Replied on Sept. 7, 2011

Where can you learn these new skills? I have held positions for which there was no training available over the last 15 years. You can now take classes in skills that I needed 7 years ago. As we cut funding to education and throw people out of work, where will they go to learn these new skills? Businesses seem reticent to train. They seem to hire only experienced workers. This is broken!

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Yes, some people have become complacent in their jobs and not willing to take on new skills, especially when it involves new technology -- Web conferencing, database management, document imaging. Technology can be a bit daunting. It's been my experience in more than one organization that even when training is offered, few people take advantage of it unless it is required.

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Martin Krohne
Martin Krohne Replied on Sept. 7, 2011

It is one thing to offer training and something else for a company to officially encourage it. I would be afraid to take time for training if it were to jeopardize my day-to-day job responsibilities. Some managers may give the message that training is a waste of time.

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paul bigley
paul bigley Replied on Sept. 8, 2011

Most good managers understand the better their employees perform, the better it reflects on their own performance evaluation. Anyone working for a manager that doesn't want to encourage their employees to expand their abilities should be looking to transfer or a new job.

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I agree with Paul Bigley. Many people have become of the mindset that somebody, company or government owes them something. Great people overcome great obstacles on their own merit.

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I agree with Martin. The companies are not providing training like they used to. In the 80's ago my manager would come by with a list of classes both internal and external and would tell me to pick two to attend. Now, they turn down classes for people to save money. The short sightedness of this is that you cannot plan for the future of the company if you don't invest in your current employees by allowing them to keep up

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paul bigley
paul bigley Replied on Sept. 7, 2011

Sorry but my experience with companies have been that they have internal classes offered for job enrichment or tuition assistance if you want to go outside for your own training or education.

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Gary Baggett
Gary Baggett Replied on Sept. 7, 2011

The company that I currently work for has internal training...for company products at a user level only. Internal training (think cross-training or enhanced training) doesn't exist to allow one to progress to the next level as you have to do it on your own.

I have tried for tuition assistance and have been turned down. In my high-tech workplace, very few classes exist and attending conventions (and classes there) is frowned upon, but you can spend your own money and take time off to your hearts content. Just be careful because it will reflect upon your annual review.

I was under the impression that there was already in place a tax deduction for companies that help train or further the education of their employees. Correct me if I am wrong here.

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paul bigley
paul bigley Replied on Sept. 8, 2011

Perhaps you are working for the wrong company.

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Nathan Och
Analytics Specialist, Array Services Group
Posted on Sept. 7, 2011

Maybe the issue as to why corporations aren't providing adequate training to update skills lies within the tax code. They may say under their breath, "Well, they tax the heck out of us, let the government pay for training American employees". Government clearly needs to play a role in job creation, and I believe one of the best initiatives may be to create some sort of tax incentive for companies to "reboot" their training modules. Maybe if employers provided the training, it would decrease frictional unemployment and increase job security amongst American workers again.

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Bruce Johnson
Bruce Johnson Replied on Sept. 8, 2011

In California, the Employee Training Panel does grants for employee training. My company is handling several training programs for clients.

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Yes. At a distance it appears that the US is running out of credible dreams to believe in and pursue, honorably.

Wars are becoming 'too public' and hopefully will go out of fashion as the globe shrinks. Inhuman dictators are being strung up, decency may yet prevail over time.

Check out the obesity trend and compare it to the 'rate of change', in particular economic and high impact technology trends. These are indicators of the stresses of
coping with uncertainty at large.

It will pass, as it must, as we sort out what's important to us as a species. There is a lot of good work being done around the world and it will filter out a new ethos over time. Political, environmental and economic turmoil are the sum of us all and it will settle.

At the moment Mother Nature is also having a say in things, too. We all need things to believe in, perhaps we need to be reminded from time to time.

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Teresa Dentino
CEO and Founder, The Financial 411
Posted on Sept. 8, 2011
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Tagging on to my earlier post, please see this article which supports my earlier points about technology displacing some of those jobs. This needs to be factored into the new unemployment rhetoric and expectations. Article Title: Are Jobs Obsolete? http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/09/07/rushkoff.jobs.obsolete/index.html

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Wayne Spivak
President, SBA * Consulting LTD
Posted on Sept. 9, 2011
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Sedentary, defiantly. Technology is moving at supersonic speeds and the mid-age to older work just isn't keeping up. That hurts both their careers and productivity at companies.

Sedentary in the way we think our position in business life should be, versus what it is and needs to be. I come across many experienced CFO's who just don't get that a) they are salespeople and b) they need to hone and live that ideal if they wish to get a new job, build a small consulting practice, etc.

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Employers also need to open their eyes to the skill sets that are out there already. Too often they focus only on hiring those from the same exact industry or role. While sometimes this is a necessity, it is not always the case. Often there are so many with "transferrable skills" from different industries and cultures, that are quite capable of doing the job, employers are not taking advantage of these opportunities to hire someone with a different perspective on a job. As a human resources professional, I have worked in a variety of industries, including construction, software and technology, printing, manufacturing, health care and insurance. Unfortunately, there are still those hiring HR professionals that do not see these skills as transferrable and request that you have specific industry experience. While each industry/culture has its own way of doing things, looking at it from a different perspective is very beneficial. The for profit and non-profit companies are very different, but both have a lot to learn from each other.

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Yes. It's become an entitlement society. Too many people expect things to be handed to them rather than taking responsibilty for themselves.

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