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What is the difference between Cloud and SaaS?

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Laurence Ledford
President, TLC Group Inc
Posted on Feb. 23, 2012

The term Cloud is often misrepresented. The could is really a generic term that refers to something that is not considered "on-premise" with the user. Within the "cloud" there are two concepts that should be defined. The first is, as you mentioned in your question, SaaS and the other Hosted.

When someone is using software that has been licensed via SaaS, it actually means that they have a subscription (lease / rent) to it. For example, a newspaper or magazine subscription. You don't own the magazine, but you as long as you pay your monthly or annual fees you get to benefit from it. When you decide you no longer want the magazine anymore, you merely cancel your subscription and as a result, no longer get a copy of the magazine.

This differs from the Hosted concept that is under the Cloud, because when you "host" the software that you actually own. You do not lease or rent the software, but have actually purchased a perpetual license to it.

Thanks,

Laurence
www.tlcgroupinc.com
www.discretemanufacturingerp.com

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Timothy Simmons
Timothy Simmons Replied on Feb. 27, 2012

I like your answer as it is the most straight forward. Speaking from one of those with an ASP (application service provider) background, it just appears that we are rebranding and to some extent confusing the audience. In my definition, Cloud is meant to represent a mystical location where I can access services and support without having to shell out a lot of money and time. In short, I want to focus on my core business initiatives while someone focus' on keeping the things that I am not good at or really want to become too good at, running, secure and built to expand with my business.

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Randy Grein
Randy Grein Replied on March 1, 2012

Well, that was the point. Sorry, but the term cloud was invented to rebrand SAAS and other offerings that were not selling well. The term actually does reflect well the concepts and is a better umbrella, but it's unfortunate that it's the 2nd or 3rd attempt to define external services.
It would be better if everyone came to a straightforward view of cloud services as outsourced computing. It subsumes external storage, applications, and services like email filtering. The best analogy I have heard is transportation - own a car, call a taxi or take the bus. Taxis (what most cloud vendors are offering) are convenient ways to travel but very expensive for daily use. Few normal people use them regularly. Mass transit is a different issue. By taking advantage of economies of scale a generalized service can be offered for a price that meets or beats private ownership.
Yes, this view flies in the face of IT business logic, which is one of the advantages. The issue is not paring down to core competencies (the most egregious misuse of logic I can think of) but acquiring affordable, reliable services. Taxis are a 1% solution. Mass transit is a 50% solution.

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Juraj Lisiak
Consultant
Posted on Feb. 26, 2012

Very simply put SaaS is a subset of cloud enabled services. With SaaS we usually also discuss the IaaS and PaaS service models and the differences between the three. Furthermore, cloud solutions have also evolved where they can be private, hybrid or public. NIST has several whitepapers that very clearly articulate these differences but wikipedia has good start as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing

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Jan Klincewicz
Jan Klincewicz Replied on Feb. 26, 2012

Nobody seems to want to "very simply put" anything anymore. I think NIST has nailed these since about 2009, and have only gotten more succinct since then. I don't see any "blurred" definitions there. http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/cloud-102511.cfm

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Jack Shaw
President, Breakthrough Business Technologies
Posted on Feb. 26, 2012

"Cloud" and "SaaS" are two separate, but overlapping concepts. Let's take them one at a time, and then discuss their interaction.

"Cloud" in it's simplest form refers to shared resources - data, software applications,
storage, communications capabilities, and computer processing power. (For details, see my video, "What Is Cloud Computing?" at http://www.e-com.com/sample-client-videos.) The Public Cloud is what most people think of when they refer to "The Cloud." These are resources accessible to many people and organizations through the public Internet.

There are also, Private, Hosted Private, and Hybrid Clouds. (See my paper, "Cloud Computing – Public, Private, and Hybrid," at http://www.e-com.com/white-papers-and-blogs#DynaSis, for a more detailed discussion of types of clouds.)

A Private Cloud is one whose resources are all accessed and controlled by a single entity (e.g., a company or a public sector organization). Larger enterprises may create their own private clouds and host them on infrastructure which they also own. This can allow multiple divisions, departments, etc., to share resources more cost effectively. Smaller organizations may purchase services from a third-party Cloud Services Provider (CSP) to host their Private Cloud for them. Often the resources in this Hosted Private Cloud are integrated with internally hosted resources. The result is what's often called a Hybrid Cloud.

Software-as-a-Service, or SaaS, is really a software licensing concept. It means that people or organizations can use software on a per user, per transaction, or "per" some other easily measurable variable basis rather than purchasing the software outright and installing it on their own internal infrastructure.

To be economically viable, most SaaS vendors provide access to their software through the Public Cloud. In theory, however, SaaS could be hosted in a Private Cloud, though this is rarely done.

At the same time, SaaS is just one of multiple kinds of services available through Cloud Computing. These include Infrastructure as a Service, or IaaS (available through both Public and Hosted Private CSP's), Platform as a Service, or PaaS, Cloud-based Storage, and even Cloud Based Communications.

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Mike Schinkel
Mike Schinkel Replied on Feb. 26, 2012

Is SaaS really a "software license," or instead isn't it more properly termed a "software subscription?"

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Jack Shaw
Jack Shaw Replied on Feb. 26, 2012

Mike,
Good point. Technically, with SaaS you are licensing the use of the software on a subscription basis rather than purchasing the license outright. So either term could be correct so long as the context is made clear. Thanks for pointing that out!

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Norbert Laengrich
CEO, Embedded Galaxy
Posted on Feb. 26, 2012

John, it may help to understand to origin of the term "cloud". Early papers describing networking and the Internet initially used the term as a broad reference to everything beyond the desktop/notebook PC . More recently it has been combined in the expression "Cloud Computing" to reference the various concepts already described by Jack Shaw and others.
In general today, it is used as a reference to using hardware and software resources available via the Internet. Using Google search, YouTube, Facebook, Focus etc. are simple examples of using cloud computing.
Cloud Computing references a broad concept of using resources beyond the desktop (and more often today beyond the enterprise) while SaaS, etc are business and delivery models.

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'Cloud' is an environment, wheras 'SaaS is a business model.

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Scott Albro
Scott Albro Replied on March 5, 2012

I like this answer. Simple and effective.

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pons dela cruz
Solutions Manager, TTI
Posted on Feb. 26, 2012
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At present, we can view the SaaS as one of the delivery models of a cloud environment where the intended consumer are the direct users of the application. Other delivery models that are residing on the cloud environment are P(latform) aaS and I(infrastructure) aaS which target different of user group. PaaS is normally for developers while IaaS is for systems administrator.

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Macie Dawkins-Hanna
Management Consultant & Small Business Advisor, Dawkins & Associates
Posted on Feb. 28, 2012
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I'm not really clear about the difference. I hope that reading the many answers to this question
will give me a clearer insight. Looking forward to reading all of your input. Thanks!

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Jan Klincewicz
Jan Klincewicz Replied on Feb. 29, 2012

Cloud is broken down into three Service Models :

INFRASTRUCTURE as a Service: You "rent" (for a specified time period at a specified price) RAW resources, such as Virtual Machines, Storage Space and Network bandwidth. You are unaware of any of the underlying hardware, and it is up to you to load the Operating System and whatever software you desire on the infrastructure.

PLATFORM as a Service goes one stop further, and provides you with an OS and development tools / languages. You can build programs for your users on the predefined PLATFORMS which may be a proprietary development environment, or may be something more generic like .NET or JAVA/Ruby on Rails, etc.

SOFTWARE as a Service means a PROVIDER has already written programs that you can USE on an as-needed basis. Typically, these are web-based applications which you access through a common browser.

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Macie Dawkins-Hanna
Macie Dawkins-Hanna Replied on Feb. 29, 2012

Jan, Thank you for the insight.

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Stephney McMohan
IT Analyst, Real Time Data Services
Posted on April 5, 2012
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The term cloud is used as a metaphor for the Internet, based on the cloud drawing used in the past to represent the telephone network, and later to depict the Internet in computer network diagrams as an abstraction of the underlying infrastructure it represents. Cloud computing is a model for enabling ubiquitous, convenient, on-demand network access to a shared pool of configurable computing resources that can be rapidly provisioned and released with minimal management effort or service provider interaction. This cloud model is composed of five essential characteristics, viz., on-demand self-service; broad network access; resource pooling; rapid elasticity; and measured service.
The cloud model is composed of three service models, one of which is Software as a Service (SaaS). In Software as a Service (SaaS) service model, the capability provided to the consumer is to use the provider’s applications running on a cloud infrastructure. The applications are accessible from various client devices through either a thin client interface, such as a web browser (e.g., web-based email), or a program interface. The consumer does not manage or control the underlying cloud infrastructure including network, servers, operating systems, storage, or even individual application capabilities, with the possible exception of limited user-specific application configuration settings.
For more information, click here –
http://www.myrealdata.com/cloud-computing.html

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Jan Klincewicz
Solutions Architect - Desktop Virtualization - VXI, Cisco Systems
Posted on Feb. 26, 2012
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What's the difference between beer and Lager ? SaaS is merely one of the three canonical Service Models, which also include "Infrastructure" and "Platform". SaaS provides the most fully baked IT solution with Platform and Infrastructure descending in business value, but ascending in flexibility.

If you Google "NIST cloud definition" you will come upon a simple two-page definition of Cloud from an organization with no agenda other than to educate the public. We should be way beyond asking about cloud definitions at this point in time.

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Lynn Maria Thompson
President, Thompson Writing & Editing, Inc.
Posted on Feb. 26, 2012
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My understanding of SaaS is what several users have mentioned, that you're merely "subscribing" to the software, analogous to renting an apartment vs. buying a condo. But I think the term "cloud computing" is more broadly used to refer to the file-sharing and backup solutions in addition to the rented software.

And my concern with using cloud computing as one's primary storage or software solution is what happens to your data if you decide you no longer want to subscribe to that service, or if something goes wrong with your payment and they cut off your access to your files. I've heard too many stories of people who'd hired a website designer, then had that person hold their URL hostage when they wanted to switch services, to ever leave control of my data in somebody else's hands. Cloud solutions may be great for backups, but I always want a copy of my stuff on my own server!

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JP Morgenthal
Principal, Ranger | Cloud & VDC Services, EMC Consulting
Posted on Feb. 23, 2012
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Some would say they are synonymous, while some will say that SaaS is not cloud, but might use cloud to deliver a service to it's clients. SaaS has been included in the definition of cloud computing because the early adopters were looking for on-demand, measurable ways to acquire IT services. This initially broke down across 3 boundaries: pure infrastructure, templated platforms and complete applications. These boundaries are now starting to blur and change, which means that the current definitions will become albatrosses around the cloud's neck instead of a useful means of discussing the cloud computing pattern.

-JPM
http://about.me/jpmorgenthal

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